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bob fletcher

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5th Jun 2005 at 5:13 pm

bob fletcher - woop woop

woop woop

 
i'm reading erm...three plays atm all of them for the third or fourth time.

resistable rise of arturo ui - brecht
fear and misery of the third reich- brecht (happy b*gger)
government inspector - gogol
you are love to me, an epiphany,
you set me free and let me be
and one day i'll be love back for you
and you can know what it feels like too.

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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5th Jun 2005 at 8:49 pm

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

apparently the big pink bastard is me

 
I've read a few of Wilde's plays, like Lady Windermere's Fan, and The Importance of Being Earnest, as well as some of his essays... "The Soul of Man Under Socialism" appealed to me, for obvious reasons.

Brecht was always breaking the fourth wall, wasn't he?

blackenedrose

| 156 posts


6th Jun 2005 at 5:46 pm

blackenedrose - My lips are glossed but my heart is weak . . .

My lips are glossed but my heart is weak . . .

 
The Virgin Suicides and Lolita are both fantastic books. Both I've seen the film first. In the film Virgin Suicides there are lines taken exactly from the book and it's amazing. Both books are better than the films but yeah they're both brilliant.
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bob fletcher

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:08 pm

bob fletcher - woop woop

woop woop

 
yeah i do really like brechtian theatre he was all about verfremdungseffekt (my drama rteacher would be proud) basically alienating the audience from emotional involvment. an actor actign in a brechtian theatre is supposed to spend more thought on makign the intellectual point of the text clear than the emotions of the character they are portraying, this can be done by loadsa stuff which i wont go into ...but if you ever feel like making some interesting dramatic comparrisons compare stanislavski's methods (especialy role of the actor) to brechts theories.

clare..how long did it take you to read lolita?..lol
you are love to me, an epiphany,
you set me free and let me be
and one day i'll be love back for you
and you can know what it feels like too.

Elusive Moose

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:24 pm

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

Get your Antlers on

 
Quote: Captain_Spiky_


Oooh, that sounds ace!  Where can we get these from then?  Can you post a link to a website or summink?

Zadie Smith is rather excellent.  


Sorry for taking so long to reply. I'd've thought you can get them from most bookshops; we definitely do them in WHSmiths anyway Website wise I think someone suggested Amazon? And I'd've thought Penguin's website will have them somewhere. I'm not very helpful am I ?

On the subject of The Virgin Suicides- it's good, but Middlesex (also by Jefferey Eugenicides, hence my mentioning) is infintely better. It's just so beautifully written and is one of the most interesting and well-structured books I have ever read. Very perceptive too and despite it's 600-odd pages there is not one where it is dull. You might think that a book about a haemaphrodite would be slightly dodgy/peverse/wrong, but Eugenicides handles the topic very well. There are some peverse leanings (incest, freak shows and the like) but they're written in a way that you learn to accept them and they don't seem as abnormal as they would do if written in another way. Go and read this book.

Re: Douglas Coupland; his best book is undoubtably All Families Are Physchotic. For one thing, it actually HAS a plotline! And it's the funniest of the lot too. This was the first one of his I read (it went through my family and I don't think anyone that read it was dissappointed by it) and none of the others I've read subsequently have quite matched its standards in my opinion, although to be fair, I've not read them all.

And on subject; at the moment I'm reading 'The French Revolution: A Very Short Introduction' by William Doyle. I would pass judgement but it would be extremely one sided, considering my current hatred for the French Revolution. History lessons do that to you

Edited by Elusive Moose Jun 2005
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Animal

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:26 pm

Animal -

 
Come tomorrow, ill be re-reading the Apple helpdesk essentials papers.

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Turtle

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:30 pm

 
I didnt like Middlesex. I felt I couldnt care about the character or get into the characters fate or story. I felt detatched from the book but when I read The Virgin Suicides, I felt attached to the fates, and lives of every character.

Elusive Moose

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:40 pm

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

Get your Antlers on

 
See I got much more attatched to the characters in Middlesex and much preffered the storyline to that of Virgin Suicides. I think this might have been a result of starting to dislike the VS characters towards the end. If it had been any longer then I probably would have done, whereas I wanted to read more about them in Middlesex. Funnily enough it wasn't the main character I liked the most, though, but the grandparents. (I'm awful at remembering character's names)

Also, I really liked the historical aspect of Middlesex which I think heightened my enjoyment of it. But yes, both good books.
"You can't roast infants. You just don't get away with it."- a life lesson for us all.


Wife of  Phil the Lawful Hippo. Imagine the children!

The Disneyafied Adventures of Me

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:43 pm

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

apparently the big pink bastard is me

 
Lolita is another book I'm perenially half-way through.

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:45 pm

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

apparently the big pink bastard is me

 
Quote:
For one thing, it actually HAS a plotline!


So?

Elusive Moose

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6th Jun 2005 at 8:47 pm

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

Get your Antlers on

 
Good point. Still makes it marginally better though.

I also cannot believe I used the phrase 'heightened my enjoyment' on an Internet forum. Well... at least it wasn't 'heightens ones enjoyment' or something...

...
"You can't roast infants. You just don't get away with it."- a life lesson for us all.


Wife of  Phil the Lawful Hippo. Imagine the children!

The Disneyafied Adventures of Me

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

| 6,189 posts


6th Jun 2005 at 8:52 pm

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

apparently the big pink bastard is me

 
One was amazed by one's elocution. One would also think that one, being one, and only one would think one to be one of only one, wouldn't one?

And I don't think it's fair to say that all other Douglas Copeland books do not have a plotline. I can visibly see a major plotline and some interweaving minor ones throughout Microserfs, and the existential meanderings are just a wonderful bonus.

Elusive Moose

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6th Jun 2005 at 9:11 pm

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

Get your Antlers on

 
That's not one of the one's I've read and I'm slightly overexaggerating by saying they don't have a plotline. But it is true that a lot of them are worse than Ben Elton for going off on complete tangents (don't get me wrong, I like both Coupland and Elton, but it's undeniable that half their books are taken up with tangents. And, in the case of Ben Elton, graphic descriptions of sordid sex. All fun). This doesn't make them bad books at all, I just said that I preferred All Families Are Pyschotic was because of the more visible plotline which I found made it more interesting to read.

And I didn't understand a word of your first paragraph even when replacing every 'one' with 'you' or 'I'. Hmph.
"You can't roast infants. You just don't get away with it."- a life lesson for us all.


Wife of  Phil the Lawful Hippo. Imagine the children!

The Disneyafied Adventures of Me

Freshly Squeezed Cynic

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6th Jun 2005 at 9:20 pm

Freshly Squeezed Cynic - apparently the big pink bastard is me

apparently the big pink bastard is me

 
That would be because not every "one" is comparable with "you" or "I". Some just mean... erm, "one".

Elusive Moose

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6th Jun 2005 at 9:55 pm

Elusive Moose - Get your Antlers on

Get your Antlers on

 
Care to translate?

(/me thinks answer is probably going to be no)
"You can't roast infants. You just don't get away with it."- a life lesson for us all.


Wife of  Phil the Lawful Hippo. Imagine the children!

The Disneyafied Adventures of Me


 
 
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